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Ralf Jahns

deterrent installation experience

Hello,

if you hack together a little script and decide to make it public, you can probably expect that other curious hackers have installed the interpreter or are willing to spend the effort to do it.

But if you want to ship a nice product, I would expect a "native" installer for the target system. This means a windows installer for windows and something that installs by typing "sudo apt-get install" for linux. I would happily (not really) add a ppa to get the latest version. A debian package or appimage would also be O.K..

I must admit that I'm no big fan of scripting languages and don't really understand that python venv/pip and ruby rvm/gem stuff but instead of installing a compiler by himself, the develper forces all his users to set up a complicated runtime environment.

Don't get me wrong, it wasn' too complicated or time consuming but nevertheless not ideal.

Just my 2 cents
Ralf

mojavelinux

Re: deterrent installation experience

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You didn't mention which application in the ecosystem you were installing. If you're talking about the main Asciidoctor command (asciidoctor) or Asciidoctor PDF (asciidoctor-pdf), both are packaged for Linux systems as well as package managers like Chocolaty for Windows.

Fedora:

* https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/rubygem-asciidoctor-pdf

* https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/rubygem-asciidoctor

Ubuntu:

* https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/asciidoctor

* https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/ruby-asciidoctor-pdf

You can find other references in the main README (https://github.com/asciidoctor/asciidoctor#installation). We'll also be adding packages to the docs that deal with this topic more broadly.

What we don't have is a Windows installer. I'd welcome one if someone wants to contribute it. But that isn't my specialty ;)

Best,

-Dan

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:45 PM Ralf Jahns [via Asciidoctor :: Discussion] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

if you hack together a little script and decide to make it public, you can probably expect that other curious hackers have installed the interpreter or are willing to spend the effort to do it.

But if you want to ship a nice product, I would expect a "native" installer for the target system. This means a windows installer for windows and something that installs by typing "sudo apt-get install" for linux. I would happily (not really) add a ppa to get the latest version. A debian package or appimage would also be O.K..

I must admit that I'm no big fan of scripting languages and don't really understand that python venv/pip and ruby rvm/gem stuff but instead of installing a compiler by himself, the develper forces all his users to set up a complicated runtime environment.

Don't get me wrong, it wasn' too complicated or time consuming but nevertheless not ideal.

Just my 2 cents
Ralf

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Ralf Jahns

Re: deterrent installation experience

Thanks again for your quick and detailed answer. I installed asciidoctor on linux mint by using method (d) - gem install (with rvm install first). I interpreted the install instructions so, that this is the recommended method to get the latest version (but I choose stable).

Of course you're right and I'm wrong. Asciidoctor provides all kind of installers.

Best regards
Ralf